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 Growing drugs epedemic
Author: the dogg (---.abdn.ac.uk)
Date:   10-15-03 14:48

Has anyone else noticed the amount of teenagers in elgin who seem to walk about permanantly stoned. I have lived in elgin for some time now and i have noticed that many of the local attractions and landmarks seem to have a permanent prescence of teenagers or alcaholics who are taking drugs such as cannibis, Ladyhill for example where the teenagers are sitting on the benches skinning up and taking bongs and other unsavoury contraptions. I think it is high time that we all got together and save our already miserable town from these layabouts. God knows people in elgin are driven to drugs and drink by the lack of things to do and the locals who could drive Ghandi to suicide.

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 Re: Growing drugs epedemic
Author:  (---.access.uk.tiscali.com)
Date:   01-12-04 22:11

So, what do you propose to do about it?, everyone gets together and does what? These teenagers aren't layabouts, they are just vivtims of todays society where in Moray there is scarce prospect of a well paid job, most if they are lucky will get a minimum wage, cannabis is merely todays way of 'chilling ' out and forgetting their problems, in your day it was probably alcohol. Instead of labelling people as layabouts and wasters has anyone asked them what they would like? Do you think kids like sitting about in the cold, getting stoned, cannabis generates apathy and disinterest in life. Give them something to become involved in that is theirs and not run by adults controlling them. Does the council have any plans? What about Moray drug and alcohol?, no doubt they are underresourced and overworked and currently over run with 'harder' addicts. cannabis is probably the least of their worries. Does cannabis always lead to hard drugs? Perhaps the council should organise a meeting of drug workers, health care workers, council members , parents and most importantly teenagers to come to a miracle solution. Unfortunately the outcome of such a meeting would no doubt be'no money', no resources, no staff, no plans, no change. I am not 'pro-cannabis' but can see why they do it.

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 Re: Growing drugs epedemic
Author: brendon (---.adsl.v21.co.uk)
Date:   10-25-04 21:42

These so called stoners are normally school pupils and the huge majority of the time they don't go on to any harder drugs. These people don't want jobs they are just experimenting and trying to find something to do. I know it's not nice to go out and find a group of teenagers getting stoned and they can be intimidating but most of the time they won't harm anyone because they are so out of it. The youth of Elgin do such things because they can't find any thing else to do.

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 Re: Growing drugs epedemic
Author: Jen (---.dsl.pipex.com)
Date:   01-20-05 16:38

They could try the youth cafe. Its not run by adults- the young folk run it. Its free, warm and safe. Most people dont give it a chance because of the bad press its had in the past but its doing a lot of good work in the community. Its not everyones cup of tea but dont knock it unless you've tried it.

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 Re: Growing drugs epedemic
Author:  (212.39.161.---)
Date:   02-01-05 06:50

It is with great amusement I read the original posting by "the dogg" (sic). No, I don't find the issue of drugs amusing, more the ramblings of a socially ignorant moron.

"I think it is high time that we all got together and save our already miserable town from these layabouts."

OK, judging by the influx, or lack of, replies; it seems that your on your own with this one "the dogg". I can just picture you, a lone vigilante patrolling Ladyhill on your mission to save the population of Elgin. Well let me give you some words of friendly advice. Well, maybe not that friendly but I'll give you them all the same. Why not put some good back in to the community by way of supporting some of the youth groups in the area, instead of having deluded visions of yourself (coz no-one else seems to be on the same cloud you're on) solving this problem by way of what? Guns? Knives? Fists? Rolling pins perhaps? or if you're feeling adventurous how about putting them up against Gladiators or lions? We could maybe use the old swimming pool as a Roman style arena and charge an admittance fee, from which the profits could be used to hire professional hit men. Or then again we could maybe look at the problem from the point of the teenagers you mention and do something of a pro-active nature.

I await your response.

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 Re: Growing drugs epedemic
Author: jobe (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   05-05-05 12:27

hey i hear what your all saying and that is that this is an issue that needs to be addressed, i have been smoking dope for ten years and i did hang around ladyhill and the park but neither me nor any of my friends ever ment to intimidate anyone we were just trying to cope with life in the only way we knew how. i am now addicted to cannibus and have let it dominate my life to the point where i have lost my daughter, my girlfriend, my house and any shread of self respect, every penny i get goes into buying more dope because i don't feel like i can handle the world anymore, well at least not straight. i think we should target young school children and have people like me telling them that it's cool to be clean and showing them what i had lost through my own weakness. when i was at school we were told we couldn't get addicted to weed and in most cases that is true but i didn't find out till it was too late. there is no quick fix but i think it's still worth trying to educate youngsters early enough so they at least have an informed choice and a fighting chance, lets not lable these kids straight away because they will never listen to another word we say.

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